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As I have been told here. It might not mean much to you but you know how
many cigs you can buy with that!! HAHA.
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Cannot verify the accuracy, but here's a fun tax calculator
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 11:10AM
This does not incorporate the AMT and says so in the fine print.
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 1:12PM
I think you broke the calculator with your large numbers. **
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Hokieesith
11/29/2017 1:47PM
No surprise, but I get slammed under either plan.
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hoolstoptheheels
11/29/2017 12:35PM
That's interesting. I compared the base current law
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psychobilly
11/29/2017 12:25PM
I would save a decent amount under each plan
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 12:14PM
Yep...I stand to come out smelling like a rose with either
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 12:18PM
Yeah, but what does each plan do for your taxes in 2027?
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 12:06PM
I was wondering the same thing.
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WahooMatt05
11/29/2017 1:06PM
They made them temporary as a gimmick to make the plan
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 1:14PM
And necessary when not a single Dem will vote for it. **
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Hoodafan
11/29/2017 1:41PM
No Dem SHOULD vote for this bullshit. No intellectually honest republican
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 1:43PM
We'll just have to disagree but that has nothing to do with my point. In
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Hoodafan
11/29/2017 1:53PM
They could've made a palatable tax change that came in under $1.5 trillion
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WahooMatt05
11/29/2017 2:08PM
Or they could've gone to 15% Corp and left the personal side alone, but
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Hoodafan
11/29/2017 2:20PM
They have made it clear - they need a win, no matter what the cost
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111Balz
11/29/2017 1:47PM
Exactly right. The Getting Primaried Prevention Act of 2017 should be the
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 1:49PM
And thankfully that "gimmick" only really impacts the middle class
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111Balz
11/29/2017 1:21PM
Right, it's a gimmick
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WahooMatt05
11/29/2017 1:18PM
Same with the bush tax cuts. Changes had to be made.
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 1:45PM
Didn't they sunset during a recession? raising taxes during a recession
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111Balz
11/29/2017 1:49PM
They also sunset during a time where congress was up for election.
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 1:56PM
Both good points **
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111Balz
11/29/2017 5:44PM
Is it a wealth transfer allowing people to keep their money? **
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 1:33PM
By law, what you owe in taxes is not "your money." So yes, reducing what
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 1:42PM
But the law changed saying they owe less so the difference is still
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 1:53PM
I really don't care what you choose to call it, tbh. **
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 2:01PM
Hey, it's your logic, not mine. **
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 2:08PM
So in your world, if you have someone making $40K who
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 1:52PM
No, you misread my post. Read again - thought it was pretty clear.
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 1:57PM
What is a tax increase? A 'hand in'? **
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Stimp
11/29/2017 2:26PM
Well, depending on the size of the tax increase it could be a "fisting" ...
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 4:16PM
Sans reach around **
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TpkeHoo
11/29/2017 3:09PM
Returning to the gov't what is rightfully their's to begin with? **
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 2:50PM
They are increasing the amount you owe, so whatever you want to call that.
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 2:53PM
LOL! I love how you pass the buck. It was your piss-poor logic that
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 2:59PM
If you consider reducing the amount someone pays to the
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 2:05PM
If you think someon can only get a handout if he's poor, then we do indeed.
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 2:17PM
So if the top tax rate is 39.6% and it goes to 50%, what
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 3:04PM
Hey, it's the "price of being an American"... **
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 3:11PM
I don't hate the "rent for being an american" concept, but
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 3:23PM
Boca, I have trouble believing you can't really understand the concept of
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 4:21PM
I understand the concept of reducing a liability. I don't consider that a
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 5:06PM
It pretty much boils down to whose money you believe it is. You, like
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 5:42PM
Just so we can agree that it will be Boca's children's debt! **
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Shenhoo
11/29/2017 5:51PM
It need not be anyone's children debt if people would simply
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 5:54PM
Good god you’re stupid. **
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 10:12PM
Yep...asking for a rational and reasonable approach to governmental
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Hokie5150
11/30/2017 06:33AM
I hate the rent concept, because it doesn't apply to everyone. It's
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 3:39PM
Someone can only get a handout if they are given something that was
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 2:30PM
What stupidity, anyhow I blame myself for engaging your dumb ass. **
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 2:57PM
You got owned in this thread
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TomKazanski
11/29/2017 4:12PM
Well, at least 5150 is no longer the dumbest person in the thread.
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 4:22PM
ROTFLMAO! **
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 3:00PM
In either case, he is paying what he owes by law, so the money he keeps is
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 2:00PM
Apparently. **
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 1:54PM
Prediction
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111Balz
11/29/2017 1:43PM
You nailed it.
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WahooRQ
11/29/2017 4:32PM
He seems to come up with these takes on issues that are
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111Balz
11/29/2017 5:48PM
No
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WahooMatt05
11/29/2017 1:37PM
How is that the most important question?
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Faz d. Hoo
11/29/2017 12:58PM
I'm just being a smart ass as a follow-up to last night's thread.
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BocaHoo91
11/29/2017 1:00PM
I appreciate a good smart ass comment
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WahooMatt05
11/29/2017 1:10PM
Yes, the tool does not incorporate the phase out of individual
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111Balz
11/29/2017 12:36PM
Or the new automatic tax increases if not generating what they expected it
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THECZAR
11/29/2017 12:49PM
House plan lose $6,953 and Senate plan gain $5,518
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fphoo
11/29/2017 12:01PM
I'm calling bs on this **
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TomKazanski
11/29/2017 12:41PM
You think I just made up random numbers? Unlike some UVA grads,
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fphoo
11/29/2017 1:44PM
If anyone here is an expert on bs, it would have to be you. **
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HowieT3
11/29/2017 12:45PM
That's a huge swing...what are the areas of difference between the two
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 12:03PM
I see I misread your post. Sorry about that.
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fphoo
11/29/2017 1:55PM
I'm self-employed so I'm used to the heavier tax burden.
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fphoo
11/29/2017 12:15PM
Great post **
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111Balz
11/29/2017 12:53PM
About $1000 different either way. But my feeling for this tax reform is
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JohnHoo2
11/29/2017 11:56AM
If it was about simplification with no cuts I woild be all
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81_Hokie
11/29/2017 12:20PM
House: save 117. Senate: cost 268. Yes. YUGE cut for the
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81_Hokie
11/29/2017 11:52AM
As I have been told here. It might not mean much to you but you know how
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THECZAR
11/29/2017 11:59AM
You could get one of those new induction hot plates, a compatible pan, and
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Hoo TV
11/29/2017 11:56AM
That shiuld stimulate the economy and creat 1,000 Ronco jobs **
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81_Hokie
11/29/2017 12:22PM
Trickle down, baby! Like manna from heaven. Milk and honey, here we come!
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Hoo TV
11/29/2017 2:55PM
So do i root for the House plan, that would only cost me $700, or the
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111Balz
11/29/2017 11:15AM
Just paying your "fair share". **
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 11:47AM
Maybe. Did posting that make your gonads tingle? **
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111Balz
11/29/2017 11:49AM
Odd interest on your part, but whatever floats your boat... **
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 11:50AM
Hardly changes anything for me. **
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Hokieesith
11/29/2017 11:14AM
And, like Trump, that's the only thing you care about. **
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 11:37AM
I wanted it to go down. It didn’t. I may need to “get Trump” for this. **
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Hokieesith
11/29/2017 12:12PM
And 1.5 Trillion additional debt **
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81_Hokie
11/29/2017 11:49AM
You have no concerns about whether or not it helps or hurts you? **
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 11:49AM
Where did I say that? **
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 12:02PM
Where did Hokieesith say the only thing he cared about was what
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 12:05PM
He referenced only himself in his post. **
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 12:10PM
LOL. Well yeah. Because I only have my numbers to work with. Lol.
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Hokieesith
11/29/2017 1:46PM
Bozo sithie hard @ work **
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 1:47PM
You made an ass out of yourself.
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Hokieesith
11/29/2017 1:51PM
#alt-facts. get a grip, sithie **
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 3:12PM
Of course this didn’t factor in the 9% tax on pass through
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Hokieesith
11/29/2017 12:16PM
What means does he have to check anyone else's tax status? **
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 12:12PM
He's an archetype Trumpist: selfish, self centered, self referential
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 12:23PM
Are you speaking about me? Lol. This is hilarious. **
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Hokieesith
11/29/2017 1:22PM
Your denial is infinitely more hilarious **
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 1:30PM
Do you want him to pay more or less in taxes? **
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 12:24PM
I want transparency into how he is conflicted.
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hoolstoptheheels
11/29/2017 12:47PM
LLCs? They pay self employment tax.
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Hokieesith
11/29/2017 1:07PM
I think they do both those things.
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hoolstoptheheels
11/29/2017 1:51PM
I don't give a shit what he pays. I do give a shit that this tax plan
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 12:29PM
Yes you do. And apparently if I don’t pay more you don’t like it.
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Hokieesith
11/29/2017 1:43PM
Two clown posts from you in sequence, sithie. You're on a roll **
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 1:45PM
I disagree with your take on Hokieesith's post. I'm middle-class and will
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 12:31PM
Lucky you. Unfortunately, the GOP is raising taxes on millions (link)
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 1:22PM
I guess tax increases are only OK when Democrats enact them.
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Hokie5150
11/29/2017 1:31PM
Oh yeah, the Dems Can't discuss this w/o but, but, but
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 1:35PM
Pay your fair share. Stop being selfish. **
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Hokieesith
11/29/2017 1:37PM
Remarkably clownish post, even for you. **
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WaxHoo
11/29/2017 1:42PM
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